[personal profile] rootofnewt
Ick...

Fish ingredient might be introduced to a variety of foods. I could care less about the bacon, fish, forumula, and ham. I want my OJ and bread left alone.

Fortunately, I doubt I really have to worry. It's not like I can buy most store-bought bread, anyhow.

I really don't think enrichment is the solution to widespread malnutrition. I think education is a much better option. I'd say that those who can't be bothered to eat properly will just fall victim to natural selection, but I'm not sure that's fair to those who are too poor to buy enough food.

Date: 2003-08-26 08:32 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] chorus-of-chaos.livejournal.com
purslane is a good source of omega I recently found out, and I have metric buttloads of it growing around here.

No, the solution to problem is encouraging responsible breeding in overcrowded countries and in nutritional studies NOT being influenced by lobbying. That won't solve it completely but it sure as hell will go a long way toward helping. Cold as it may sound I would much rather donate money to an org that provides birth control in countries where children are starving then to send money to feed them. That just furthers the process, more survive to have more children they can't feed, etc. etc. etc. I know how cold hearted and mean that sounds, but lets face it, the current approach isn't working, is it?

Date: 2003-08-26 08:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deyo.livejournal.com
From wholehealthmd.com:

However, a third omega-3, called alpha-linolenic acid (ALA), is found primarily in dark green leafy vegetables, flaxseed oils, and certain vegetable oils. Although ALA has different effects on the body than EPA and DHA do, the body has enzymes that can convert ALA to EPA. All three are important to human health.


So spinach can be a viable substitute for fish in this case, and won't turn vegans and other fish-averse individuals away from their juices. :)

Date: 2003-08-26 08:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krasota.livejournal.com
The fact that vegetarian alternatives exist doesn't mean manufacturers will use them. Some of the Vitamin D used to enrich milk is fish-derived. There might even be Vit D enriched OJ these days. I'm not sure, as I don't buy OJ often enough to pay attention. When I do buy OJ, I buy unenriched, super-pulpy.

It's probably cheaper to use fish, too.

Date: 2003-08-26 09:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saintaspartame.livejournal.com
I am nowhere veggie or vegan though I love just about all kinds of veggies and fruit. I simply don't eat enough of them. Bad me.
But.... what really bothers me about transmogrifying tuna oil to DHA is the source of the tuna oil: tuna. From the ocean. In which the human population has dumped lead, mercury, cadmium, PCBs, and all sorts of other nasty nasty nasty nasty heavy elements and molecules that have been shown to really fuck up brain development and all other sorts of things in children. By adding lead et al to most foods susceptible children eat, we're damning them by retarding and stunting their growing bodies. Go us!

Greenland, now.

Henna!

Date: 2003-08-26 10:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] honeydewdroplet.livejournal.com
Hi, I was reading your post on henna and thought i'd ask if you know which brand henna is best for the hands and so forth, ad which would acheive the reddest colour possible??
oh,and you mentioned the mountain light henna?? I was wondering if perhaps you knew if it was stocked in australia??
thanks,
Dis

Re: Henna!

Date: 2003-08-26 11:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krasota.livejournal.com
I have no clue what would be available in Australia. If you have local Indian shops, you could check there.

For bodyart henna,look at the link I posted about brands. hennapage.com has links to trusty vendors, though I don't know if they ship to Australia.

The henna I use for my hair would not be appropriate for mehndi. You want much fresher henna for that.




Re: Henna!

Date: 2003-08-26 11:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] honeydewdroplet.livejournal.com
thanks, so much! :)
you've helped muchly! oh, and now I know why I broke out after someone applied "black henna"
I swear if i see this guy again, i'll kill him, my leg is badly scarred now:(

Re: Henna!

Date: 2003-08-26 11:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krasota.livejournal.com
Yes, PPD is a bad thing. I'm lucky that my doctor tested me for it long before I thought about dying my hair with anything other than henna. I'm severely allergic to PPD, so I know not to go near any black hair dyes, other than indigo. I haven't tried indigo, since I love the red color of henna.

Did you turn in the guy who used the ppd-laced henna? Some jurisdictions/countries are starting to pass laws against it.

Re: Henna!

Date: 2003-08-26 11:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] honeydewdroplet.livejournal.com
Nope! it was ages ago done by a busker and I never seen him again, i'd like to get my hands on him though! *grr* I was also allergic, I broke out into a sore itcy rash all over my body and I was on medication for months after it! :(

Date: 2003-08-26 12:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bbick.livejournal.com
They do have vitamin-D enriched OJ. I just saw it for the first time a few weeks ago.

And you like super-pulpy orange juice? Nasty...the thought makes me want to gag!

Date: 2003-08-26 02:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophy.livejournal.com
That is so disturbing. I hope they at least list the ingredient in such a way that those of us reading the info can tell if it vegan/veggie or not.

Re: Henna!

Date: 2003-08-26 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ismene.livejournal.com
If you're going to try DIY mehndi, I've read that adding coffee or black tea to the henna mixture will make it a darker brown and less orangey. Definitely non-toxic and I have never heard of anyone having skin allergies to either of the two. I hope your skin's better now from your previous bad henna experience.

Date: 2003-08-26 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ismene.livejournal.com
Holy fuck! BRAINS are a good source of omega acids? No wonder zombie flesh is always so oily and moist! (Mmm...brains.)

I think companies should be making foods simpler, not more complex. Goddammit. If people want/need extra nutrients, that's what supplementation is for. You know these super-enriched foods aren't going to get to third world countries where there are the most nutritional deficiencies.

Speaking of simpler foods, I found a brand of salad dressing today that doesn't have soybean oil and is gluten-free (Annie's Naturals). Thanks for reminding me that Kroger has a tiny organic section so I don't always have to trek up to the northside.

Date: 2003-08-26 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ismene.livejournal.com
You can't just simply provide the birth control and leave it at that, usually. Women /and/ men need to be educated on why having fewer children is important and many times there's a lot of cultural bias towards huge families that must be overcome, which can take time. In countries where the burden of food production falls on women (sub-Saharan Africa, many Pacific islands), many if not most women want to have several children and want their husbands to have co-wives because then they'll have help with all the farming, pounding of grain, cooking, and so on. I'm all for responsible breeding, but in some cultures getting it to work will require a radical overhaul of that culture.

Date: 2003-08-27 03:27 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] chorus-of-chaos.livejournal.com
yeah, I agree..I was in a hurry and didn't go into all that, but being educated about this stuff is half the battle. I know high child death rates is also a reason why these people have a higher number of kids, just to see some of them survive, which is another nasty little catch 22...
There's no quick and easy answer, but it's not going to correct on it's own if no one tries to start the education process.

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