Thank you for the detailed response! Just in case, please understand that I am - sort of - foreign; grew up in the USSR, came here in 1994, and my views may not be falling into any typical pattern around here. But I am trying to follow the arguments of different groups - in order to form my (hopefully independent) opinion.
a) I felt that religious groups - in CA, esp. in BAy Area are attacked no less. I mean, both ultra-left and ultra-right deserve criticism. b) Hmmm, interesting. I recon you imply marginal religious groups (e.g. Texas ranch)? However I thought rather about harem structure - multiple wifes, as in some moslem parts of the world. I don't know if you are aware of this, but during the US Citizenship naturalization proces the 3 major sins are: being a communist, being a terrorist, being a polygamist. I've seen multiple publications (can dig out the links) where the activists of GLBT clearly declare "2 persons" marriage and strictly object to polygamy. c) Just as an example - if the black community opposed the 8 as much as they supported Obama, there is no question it would have been rejected. d) The overall total - i.e. for BOTH sides is just above $60 mil. Some more detail: http://seaqwa.com/blogs/qnews/archive/2008/10/25/no-on-prop-8-campaign-gets-influx-of-donations-in-final-weeks-of-fight-for-gay-rights.aspx As of October 25 - As of Friday, opponents of Proposition 8 have raised $31.2 million, according to official reports, with 34% of the money coming from outside the state. Supporters of the measure had raised $27.5 million, with about 19% of the money coming from outside California. e) Do you really think that revolutionary measures are the right ones? The campaign methods of stealing the "Yes for 8" off the front yards and assaulting Prop 8 supporters - do you think it would work? (I am just asking).
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Date: 2008-11-09 03:58 pm (UTC)Just in case, please understand that I am - sort of - foreign; grew up in the USSR, came here in 1994, and my views may not be falling into any typical pattern around here. But I am trying to follow the arguments of different groups - in order to form my (hopefully independent) opinion.
a) I felt that religious groups - in CA, esp. in BAy Area are attacked no less. I mean, both ultra-left and ultra-right deserve criticism.
b) Hmmm, interesting. I recon you imply marginal religious groups (e.g. Texas ranch)? However I thought rather about harem structure - multiple wifes, as in some moslem parts of the world. I don't know if you are aware of this, but during the US Citizenship naturalization proces the 3 major sins are: being a communist, being a terrorist, being a polygamist.
I've seen multiple publications (can dig out the links) where the activists of GLBT clearly declare "2 persons" marriage and strictly object to polygamy.
c) Just as an example - if the black community opposed the 8 as much as they supported Obama, there is no question it would have been rejected.
d) The overall total - i.e. for BOTH sides is just above $60 mil.
Some more detail:
http://seaqwa.com/blogs/qnews/archive/2008/10/25/no-on-prop-8-campaign-gets-influx-of-donations-in-final-weeks-of-fight-for-gay-rights.aspx
As of October 25 - As of Friday, opponents of Proposition 8 have raised $31.2 million, according to official reports, with 34% of the money coming from outside the state. Supporters of the measure had raised $27.5 million, with about 19% of the money coming from outside California.
e) Do you really think that revolutionary measures are the right ones? The campaign methods of stealing the "Yes for 8" off the front yards and assaulting Prop 8 supporters - do you think it would work? (I am just asking).